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Aasif Mandvi interviews Fox Business commentator, Todd Wilemon.
Aasif Mandavi is a beautiful person.
Earlier today Laura Chernikoff made this tweet
Which prompted this conversation
And that got me interested in working out what the demographics have been for the Special Guests (as listed on their websites) of the past four major YouTube events. I feel like we’re all generally aware that women and people of color are underrepresented at these things, but when you look at the numbers it becomes embarrassingly clear how ridiculous this disparity is.
The highest percentage of female Special Guests at any of these events was 32% at Summer in the City. LESS THAN 1/3.
The highest percentage of Special Guests of color* at any of these events is 16% at the current Buffer Festival. LESS THAN 1/6. (And SitC only had ONE PoC on their Special Guest list this year, which is fucking absurd.)
I don’t want to rant about this too much, I just sort of want to make these numbers known because I find them maddening. And if you guys do too, I encourage you to message the organizers of these events, let them know your thoughts, and maybe recommend them some of the incredible prominent women and PoC we have in this community.
- Playlist Live: http://www.playlist-live.com/contact/
- VidCon: email@example.com
- Summer in the City: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Buffer Festival: email@example.com (Corey contacted me not too long ago about female representation at Buffer and I gave him a ton of names, but I don’t know if he had time to take any of those suggestions on board in time for the event. Hopefully it’s something he and the team are genuinely serious about and that next year will be better on that).
C’mon YouTube events. I love you, but you seriously need to get your shit together.
*Note that my count is based primarily on looks and the people whose races I know for sure. If I made a mistake and missed anyone who’s white passing, let me know.
The guy in the sleeping bag wiggling around
The two people in the front wearing one shirt.
Are we really not going to talk about the guy in the back who is attached to another guy’s back while spinning?
WHAT ABOUT THE GUY THAT FALLS OUT OF THE WINDOW
WHY IS IT BACK
no you guys don’t understand, not only is this the first harlem shake out there… these guys aren’t normal military. This is “Telemarkbataljonen”. They’re pretty much the Norwegian equivalent of the fucking black ops. My brother knows a guy in this battalion, and when asked what they do there, he looked my brother dead in the eye and said “That is strictly confidential”. These guys are hard as shit, which makes this even more hilarious
Oh my god—that makes it so much better.
I wonder how feminists will react to this
Probably ignore it then go back to making male tears mugs and gifs
Actually this is a very common idea among feminists
It’s something feminists have been talking about for years it’s called toxic masculinity and it’s one of the common threads among the topic of ‘Patriarchy hurts men too’. If fact the first time I read about toxic masculinity was on a feminist blog.
If you actually read things feminists talk about instead of straw manning them you might know this but OH WELL
I literally worry about this all the time BECAUSE IM A FEMINIST. If you think otherwise you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’m going to puke.
yup. this is so appropriate given the rampant sexual assault in the YouTube community right?
Why is no one talking about this? Why did people I love in the YouTube community go to his movie premiere? WHAT ARE YOU DOING
I agree that Shane’s done some seriously messed up and racist shit (I do not endorse him in any way), but he can hardly help what someone writes on a t-shirt. Should he have posted it? Maybe not, but a lot of people use humor to try to deflect terrible situations. I would know since I’m someone who can’t help but tell jokes at funerals.
I also think there is a difference between disagreeing and objecting intelligently to what someone does and screaming “BURN THE WITCH,” all of the time. People make mistakes constantly and nit picking every single thing they do is unfair. Unless they are Sam Pepper, commit assault, are a murderer, rapist or child molester—we probably need to really determine where the line is. Picking our battles is a much better idea than constantly bombarding people screaming for change, because doing so doesn’t mean they’ll ever listen to anything we have to say. I would much rather he learn in the future, than never listen and never change.
This is just my point of view. Compassion is a very important thing for me as a Buddhist. It doesn’t mean I don’t want Shane to change his ways (because I am 100% on your side on this), I just think that we need to respect the fact that he’s a person and respect ourselves by not constantly focusing on negativity.
Hey, so I get what you’re saying, but what he did influences a great audience of young people. In joking about sexual assault, it makes others think that it’s funny or okay, which could lead them to thinking that committing these acts would be alright (and you can see how that’s bad).
Hi, nice to meet you! So, l do and do not agree with you. I agree with you in the fact that Shane Dawson is obviously a big Youtuber and has a lot of sway with kids and he should use that power for good and this is super shitty. However, I think again we’re walking a line here. This photo essentially is a very bad, off color joke. Shane is good at those. This is only one, really bad joke that is part of the overall problem. We need to figure out a way to deal with the problem effectively. Tearing him apart for everything he does will not make him hear us. I guess what I’m trying to say is that I am way more interested in solving the problem than participating in a rampant amount of negativity. If it gets us nowhere then there is no point to it (well, except for baiting the trolls), do you know what I mean?
I guess I am just so tired of logging onto Youtube and Twitter and seeing the negativity. I want to work towards building a better community, a community that might shy away from that content naturally. When literally every tweet I see bashes Shane or Franchesca or whoever, I really feel like I don’t want to participate anymore and that sucks. This is my happy place, and sure I can always hide in the land of Nerdfighteria where the grass is green and the science is good, but I actually like a lot of Youtube.
I don’t know what I’m saying anymore because it’s late here and I’m having trouble sleeping—but essentially I just think we need to focus on more effective tactics of dealing with the situation. Start a petition or something, because thus far nothing we’ve done has worked. Not a single thing.
As for people thinking that sexual assault is okay or funny because of this—I mean a lot of people are working against it and it’s great, but kids are still being brought up in a society that has a very misconstrued concept of sexuality and rape. Shane Dawson isn’t teaching kids anything they haven’t heard in their own houses or in their media. I mean a majority of rap and country music alone completely sets back the entirety of the female gender by about 70 years. I don’t know about you, but I pretty much understood what rape was as a child before I understood what sex was.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t say this sucks. I’m just saying if we’re going to start a war let’s not do so on Twitter in all caps. Let’s figure out a way to do it right, even if it means just reporting his content. There has just got to be a better use of our time and energy.
Yeah, I agree! Problematic things like this do tend to happen quite often in the YouTube community. By many times, if they aren’t called out by enough people, they tend to just brush it off. (Also sorry if this makes little sense. It’s quite late and I’m really tired)
I do totally see what you’re saying here, and we were apparently both up too late, lol. I mean, you’re probably right. I just think I had a lot of frustration built up and I kind of let it out on this post. And well, let’s be honest, sometimes we are a little heavy handed as a community with how we react to situations. It gets exhausting after a while, but you’re right that we don’t ever want to sweep things under the rug and I don’t want anyone thinking that’s my intention.